How Much Orthogonalization Does Muon Need?
- URL: http://arxiv.org/abs/2606.00371v1
- Date: Fri, 29 May 2026 21:26:25 GMT
- Title: How Much Orthogonalization Does Muon Need?
- Abstract summary: Muons improve neural-network training by replacing ill-conditioned momentum updates with approximately semi-orthogonal updates.<n>We use a relaxed cubic Newton--Schulz schedule derived directly for Muon's low precision singular value band.<n>We find that training quality is not governed monotonically by polar-decomposition accuracy.
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- Abstract: Muon optimizers improve neural-network training by replacing ill-conditioned momentum updates with approximately semi-orthogonal updates. This motivates a practical question: how much orthogonalization does Muon actually require? We study this question using a relaxed cubic Newton--Schulz schedule derived directly for Muon's low precision singular value band. The resulting five-step cubic construction uses ten dominant matrix multiplications, compared with fifteen for five quintic Newton--Schulz iterations. The cubic schedule is not intended as a more accurate polar solver; instead, it is a principled low-cost variant that lets us probe the relation between polar accuracy, spectral shaping, and training quality. Across synthetic diagnostics, NanoGPT ablations, and training experiments on hybrid MoE/Mamba models, we find that training quality is not governed monotonically by polar-decomposition accuracy: truncated Polar Express, Muon-Jordan, cubic Newton--Schulz, and an explicit FP32 SVD polar factor can reach nearly indistinguishable final loss on GPT-2 Small, and cubic5 matches the Muon-Jordan quintic update within about $10^{-3}$ validation loss on hybrid MoE/Mamba models with one billion to four billion parameters. These results support cubic5 as a practical low-cost Muon orthogonalization variant, with empirical evidence of training-quality parity in the settings tested.
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