Living on the edge: a non-perturbative resolution to the negativity of bulk entropies

• URL: http://arxiv.org/abs/2509.15295v1
• Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 18:00:00 GMT
• Title: Living on the edge: a non-perturbative resolution to the negativity of bulk entropies
• Authors: Stefano Antonini, Luca V. Iliesiu, Pratik Rath, Patrick Tran,
• Abstract summary: Lin, Maldacena, Rozenberg, and Shan (LMRS) presented a new information paradox in black hole physics.<n> entanglement and R'enyi entropies in a two-sided black hole can become negative when the geometry contains a very large number of matter excitations.<n>Since the entanglement and R'enyi entropies in ordinary quantum systems cannot be negative, resolving this puzzle is a necessary step towards understanding the quantum mechanical description of black holes.
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• Abstract: Lin, Maldacena, Rozenberg, and Shan (LMRS) presented a new information paradox in black hole physics by noticing that the entanglement and R\'enyi entropies in a two-sided black hole can become negative when the geometry contains a very large number of matter excitations behind the black hole horizon. While originally this puzzle was presented in the context of BPS two-sided black holes in two-dimensional supergravity, the negativity in fact persists for more general two-sided black holes in the presence of a large number of matter excitations. Since the entanglement and R\'enyi entropies in ordinary quantum systems cannot be negative, resolving this puzzle is a necessary step towards understanding the quantum mechanical description of black holes. In this paper, we explain how to address the entanglement negativity puzzle, both in the original setting discussed by LMRS and in more general non-supersymmetric settings, by summing over all non-perturbative contributions to the gravitational path integral. We then interpret this result from the point of view of a dual matrix integral, which we use to extend our analysis beyond the regime of validity of the genus re-summation performed in the gravitational path integral. In this regime, positivity is rescued by new saddles of the matrix integral, a one-eigenvalue instanton and a two-eigenvalue instanton. Finally, we formulate a similar puzzle and its resolution using random tensor network techniques.

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